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		<title>Comment on Ban rodent glue traps campaign by Shops selling glue traps illegally &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2009/08/05/ban-rodent-glue-traps-campaign/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Shops selling glue traps illegally &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ban rodent glue traps campaign  Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Ban rodent glue traps campaignGlueboard traps to be prohibited in NZHave You Ever Seen an Animal Suffering in a Glue Trap?Biz Beat: PETA in rat fight with Madison glue trap company. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Glueboard traps to be prohibited in NZ by Shops selling glue traps illegally &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2009/12/07/glueboard-traps-to-be-prohibited-in-nz/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Shops selling glue traps illegally &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Time for the animal rights movement to go mainstream? by Nick Pendergrast</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/27/time-for-the-animal-rights-movement-to-go-mainstream/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Pendergrast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, no the comments were not too critical at all, I just thought I would try and address the isses raised. I think that being critical of me (and anyone else) is really positive for the movement.

Thanks for the encouragement and for this website, I wasn&#039;t aware of it until someone posted it as a link in a comment on my article. I&#039;ll keep my eye on it from now on - it looks like a great resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, no the comments were not too critical at all, I just thought I would try and address the isses raised. I think that being critical of me (and anyone else) is really positive for the movement.</p>
<p>Thanks for the encouragement and for this website, I wasn&#8217;t aware of it until someone posted it as a link in a comment on my article. I&#8217;ll keep my eye on it from now on &#8211; it looks like a great resource.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for the animal rights movement to go mainstream? by animalrightshub</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/27/time-for-the-animal-rights-movement-to-go-mainstream/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>animalrightshub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thaks Nick, and apologies if we came across too critical. It&#039;s an important and difficult debate, and as you point out not easy to squeeze into a nutshell. We look forward to more instalments from your research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thaks Nick, and apologies if we came across too critical. It&#8217;s an important and difficult debate, and as you point out not easy to squeeze into a nutshell. We look forward to more instalments from your research.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for the animal rights movement to go mainstream? by Nick Pendergrast</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/27/time-for-the-animal-rights-movement-to-go-mainstream/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Pendergrast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a better link regarding Peter Singer and Whole Foods:

http://www.satyamag.com/sept06/edit.html

The other one was just the first hit on the Google search and does contain the letter Singer sent to Whole Foods, but this one is much more relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a better link regarding Peter Singer and Whole Foods:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.satyamag.com/sept06/edit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.satyamag.com/sept06/edit.html</a></p>
<p>The other one was just the first hit on the Google search and does contain the letter Singer sent to Whole Foods, but this one is much more relevant.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time for the animal rights movement to go mainstream? by Nick Pendergrast</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/27/time-for-the-animal-rights-movement-to-go-mainstream/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Pendergrast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments on my article.

Regarding my ‘shorthand labels’ to describe ‘complex things’ – this is very difficult to avoid in such a short article. I could have easily written a 1 000 word article on the differences between animal rights and animal welfare and covered the differences more thoroughly; however, I don’t think the article would have been as interesting. In my thesis, as well as in longer articles of course I will have more space to give these differences the justice they deserve. Regarding Peter Singer&#039;s views, again in such a short article it is hard to do his theories justice – I will obviously go into much more detail in my thesis and possibly in longer articles. However, his ‘appreciation and support’ for the “humane” animal products promoted by businesses such as Whole Foods, as well as Singer’s quotes used by Newkirk do demonstrate that Singer does support the promotion of animal welfare:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/600bvdwr.asp

This was my only point – I didn’t claim that this was Singer’s only contribution to the movement. For example, I first heard about the term “speciesism” from Singer’s work, which I think is a vital concept in linking animal exploitation with other forms of exploitation and discrimination. In the context of the article, I was pointing out that Singer’s views (which include, but are not limited to, pro-welfarist views) were more likely to be picked up by groups promoting animal welfare than theorists who reject welfarism and argue that animal rights activists should be spending all of their time campaigning for animal rights rather than welfare.

My hope in writing the article was not to fully cover Singer’s philosophy (there was merely a passing reference to Singer), but to get both people within and outside the animal advocacy movement to think seriously and critically about animal rights, welfare, and the animal advocacy movement. I hope I have achieved this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments on my article.</p>
<p>Regarding my ‘shorthand labels’ to describe ‘complex things’ – this is very difficult to avoid in such a short article. I could have easily written a 1 000 word article on the differences between animal rights and animal welfare and covered the differences more thoroughly; however, I don’t think the article would have been as interesting. In my thesis, as well as in longer articles of course I will have more space to give these differences the justice they deserve. Regarding Peter Singer&#8217;s views, again in such a short article it is hard to do his theories justice – I will obviously go into much more detail in my thesis and possibly in longer articles. However, his ‘appreciation and support’ for the “humane” animal products promoted by businesses such as Whole Foods, as well as Singer’s quotes used by Newkirk do demonstrate that Singer does support the promotion of animal welfare:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/600bvdwr.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/600bvdwr.asp</a></p>
<p>This was my only point – I didn’t claim that this was Singer’s only contribution to the movement. For example, I first heard about the term “speciesism” from Singer’s work, which I think is a vital concept in linking animal exploitation with other forms of exploitation and discrimination. In the context of the article, I was pointing out that Singer’s views (which include, but are not limited to, pro-welfarist views) were more likely to be picked up by groups promoting animal welfare than theorists who reject welfarism and argue that animal rights activists should be spending all of their time campaigning for animal rights rather than welfare.</p>
<p>My hope in writing the article was not to fully cover Singer’s philosophy (there was merely a passing reference to Singer), but to get both people within and outside the animal advocacy movement to think seriously and critically about animal rights, welfare, and the animal advocacy movement. I hope I have achieved this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Peter Singer on animal ethics, cannibalism and other tasty morsels by Time for the animal rights movement to go mainstream? &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2009/12/14/peter-singer-on-animal-ethics-cannibalism-and-other-tasty-morsels/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Time for the animal rights movement to go mainstream? &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An example is how Prendergrast rather disingenuously throws Peter Singer into the welfarist corner, whereas Singer’s views on animal welfare are much more nuanced than such treatment deserves. An understanding of Singer’s often controversial views on human welfare are necessary to fully understand his views on animal welfare. To label him as a welfare apologist misses some substantial ideas that would help New Matolda readers conceptualise and understand some pretty difficult issues. A good introduction to the Singer world view is in Richard Dawkins’ interview at this blog: Peter Singer on animal ethics, cannibalism and other tasty morsels. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] An example is how Prendergrast rather disingenuously throws Peter Singer into the welfarist corner, whereas Singer’s views on animal welfare are much more nuanced than such treatment deserves. An understanding of Singer’s often controversial views on human welfare are necessary to fully understand his views on animal welfare. To label him as a welfare apologist misses some substantial ideas that would help New Matolda readers conceptualise and understand some pretty difficult issues. A good introduction to the Singer world view is in Richard Dawkins’ interview at this blog: Peter Singer on animal ethics, cannibalism and other tasty morsels. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Animals and emotions: Marc Bekoff online resources by Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; Conservation&#8217;s Ethical Tradeoffs</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2009/11/17/animals-and-emotions-marc-bekoff-online-resources/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; Conservation&#8217;s Ethical Tradeoffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do justice to his career, and of course doesn&#8217;t speak to his dual role as a prominent animal rights advocate and outspoken critic of species restoration programs, such as the lynx [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on RSS by topic by Get animal rights updates by topic &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/rss-by-topic/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Get animal rights updates by topic &#171; Animal Rights Hub Australasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on NZ dairy factory farms face new hurdle by animalrightshub</title>
		<link>http://animalrightshub.org/2010/01/29/nz-dairy-factory-farms-face-new-hurdle/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>animalrightshub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NZ government has just released a Dairy Cattle Code of Welfare. More at http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/20/new-code-released-for-dairy-cattle-welfare-in-nz/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NZ government has just released a Dairy Cattle Code of Welfare. More at <a href="http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/20/new-code-released-for-dairy-cattle-welfare-in-nz/" rel="nofollow">http://animalrightshub.org/2010/02/20/new-code-released-for-dairy-cattle-welfare-in-nz/</a></p>
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